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| From another thread, some nice pics to start a discussion or at least reference folks too regarding horizontal overflows (with hope of steering folks away fro those awful vertical towers that are noisy to hear, awkward to work in or fish critters out of... and are poor for protein skimming). Thanks to Dave for posting... --------------------- Here's the horizontal overflow I built for my 75gal i just setup.I just used 3 pieces of glass siliconed to the back. After useing one for the first time, I can now confirm that these are the quitest/best overflows I've ever used.
.Anthony Calfo
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| Posted 2/16/2006 7:50:27 PM |
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| These are really cool, and I can definitely see the advantages. My one question, though, is how tough is it to obtain a larger (120G+) tank that is not already drilled for vertical overflows? I see undrilled 75G's all the time, but nothing really bigger than that without the towers. I'm really interested in this for my next upgrade, and a bit more cost won't deter me, but I wouldn't mind an idea up front about how tough it will be (or how much more $$$ it's going to cost me) to get a 180 or 250 that I can drill the way I want it. Thanks for any ideas/estimates/etc.
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| Posted 2/16/2006 7:59:45 PM |
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| its just a local problem for you my friend... and a small one at that. The overwhelming majority of commercial aquariums built are undrilled and without overflows. Your LFS options just prefer ordering them with verticals. A bad habit at that. From any LFS in the nation, you can get undrilled (or drilled high for horizontals) aquariums... your LFS may not stock them, but they can get them and they are cheaper (wholesale cost) by far. It's also very easy to make your own glass aquarium... see the reference to a book called "The Living Aquarium" that I have listed in my stickied thread of "Fav links..." atop this forum. It gives you step-by-step instructions on how to build glass aquaria and then some. You can at least use the info to cut and glue your own internal or external horizontal overflow box.
. Anthony Calfo
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| Posted 2/16/2006 8:28:23 PM |
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| One of the things that really surprised me after i finally got to see the horizontal overflow in action was the surface of the water.It is like a sheet of glass.I have a feeling this will reduce salt spray/deposits on bulbs and reflectors.Another plus is I will now be able to take top down pictures without having to turn my pumps off.
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| Posted 2/16/2006 8:31:47 PM |
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| yes... good points, Dave. It's really funny to me to see some regions of the US and hobby at large that either "hold onto" the notion of dreadful vertical overflows or they simply are ignorant (as in not-knowing) of the sensible (discreet, quiet, efficient, structurally safer, aesthetically less imposing, etc) application of horizontals.
. Anthony Calfo
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| Posted 2/16/2006 8:55:38 PM |
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Cool beans! Glad to hear that I just suffered from a case of regional ignorance! It's even worse than that, really - the main in-town LFS owner still insists that VHO is the best lighting in any situation, period.
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| Posted 2/16/2006 8:59:18 PM |
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if you tell me that they are also still recommending box filters full of bone charcoal, I will be very worried 
.Anthony Calfo
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| Posted 2/17/2006 9:04:34 PM |
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| I did an internal horizontal overflow on my 65g tank years ago. Took me a bunch of fiddling to get it quiet because I didn't know what I was doing when I started, but I always prefered it over the ugly verticals: much less real estate lost. If I were to start with a new tank, I would probably go with an external and have the back of the tank lower by an inch for the overflow. This would give a cleaner look IMO. Fred
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| Posted 2/20/2006 10:40:37 AM |
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Hi,
I have a related question since we are talking about those horrid vertical overflows.
I have a tank that is in the building stages, unfortunately drilled for the vert overflows but they are not attatched yet. And I am interested in seeing about converting it.
So has anyone built/seen/have pictures of a tank like that. I am a bit worried about how the plumbing inside would look.
For the record the drilling looks like this from a top down view
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| Posted 2/20/2006 1:28:54 PM |
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MagnetoRd (2/20/2006)
I have a tank that is in the building stages, unfortunately drilled for the vert overflows but they are not attatched yet.
One crazy idea, as a last case, would simply be to install a bulkhead in these holes, cap them off, and cover them with sand. Or you might consider using them to feed a closed loop and manifold.
Paul Thompson
South Ascot, Berkshire, England
Board - West London Reef Club
Webmaster - Central Oklahoma Marine Aquarium Society
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